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I just posted a bunch of .tif files to my scrapbook and they show up as broken images in mozilla as well as in IE. When I click through in mozilla they eventually opne up in quicktime and look crazy. In IE they're just red 'x'-s that I can't do anything to. Has anyone had any issues like this previously? I've searched the archive as best I could and didn't see anything in reference to this.

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From:henry
Date:July 8th, 2005 12:58 am (UTC)
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I don't see any broken images in your scrapbook, link? I didn't think fb supports .tif but I could be wrong.
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From:lysistrata
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:37 am (UTC)
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They're locked images.
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From:thgintaetal
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:00 am (UTC)
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TIFFs and most Web browsers don't get along well. Convert them to PNG or JPEG and they should work fine.
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From:lysistrata
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:40 am (UTC)
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They're proofs from a wedding that I photographed last weekend. I'd have to reextract them from crw files and then re-edit them entirely because they don't convert and I'd lose a lot of the image integrity. It's just a pain that the scrapbook feature says that they're supported and then they look broken.
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From:thgintaetal
Date:July 8th, 2005 03:03 am (UTC)
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If I recall correctly, TIFF is uncompressed, and PNG is compressed losslessly. So converting back and forth between TIFF and PNG should cause you to lose none of the quality. The downside is that PNG files will be really big - about the size of the TIFFs - but these images will display in a normal Web browser.
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From:jalajscion
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:18 am (UTC)
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I agree. Re save them as either JPEGs or GIFs. Its easier that way.
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From:lysistrata
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:41 am (UTC)
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It's easier from a very basic standpoint, but the photos are heavily edited and I'd have to re-extract them and try to re-edit them in the same way that I did initially. I can't just convert the files straight up because photoshop won't let me. It would also be a shame to lose the image integrity.
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From:flying_blind
Date:July 8th, 2005 03:36 am (UTC)
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I'm not sure (since I have no TIFF images and have never tried doing this) but I think that the free Irfanview Image Viewer may be able to convert your TIFFs to other formats directly. (It's a quick download and easy to install, so it might be worth a try.) I have often used Irfanview to convert BMP files to JPGs, with no problems.
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From:luno
Date:July 8th, 2005 03:53 am (UTC)
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GIMP can flatten the images and save to just about any format you like. And it's free. ;)
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From:peteski
Date:July 10th, 2005 10:48 pm (UTC)
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Download a little application called 'XnView' it's really usefull application for converting and viewing images.
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From:mahlon
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:35 am (UTC)
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Scrapbook supports .tif if you want to store images with lossless compression. Browsers, however, won't display .tif natively.
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From:lysistrata
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:42 am (UTC)
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None of them do? That seems silly. Why would it support a file type that isn't functionally displayed? Grrr. V. annoying. Oh well.
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From:saxifrage00
Date:July 8th, 2005 03:29 am (UTC)
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TIF is a broken format, because there's no canonical definition of how to read and write it. Essentially, a bunch of image companies got together and decided they each wanted features that the others didn't, so they made a format that they could all "extend" to their hearts' content. The end result is that a TIF written by one program often can't be read by another program. Image-editing programs are about all that reliably read and write TIFs because they have to. Browsers would be even more buggy than they currently are if they tried to support TIF.

If you want to convert from a TIF file to PNG (as one commenter above suggested, which would preserve the image pixel-for-pixel), there are programs other than Photoshop that will do it. Take a look at GIMP for Windows for one.
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From:grumpy_sysadmin
Date:July 9th, 2005 01:45 am (UTC)
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Well, you didn't exactly check what images were supported by your browser, did you? There are plenty of ways to display TIFFs in browsers, and several browsers that support some form of TIFF.

As many others have already suggested, converting those TIFFs you've got there to PNGs will result in no loss of quality. That still won't be viewable in plenty of browsers, as IE only started including PNG support relatively recently, and the image format is newer than web browsers' existence.

Don't, as some of suggested, use JPEG or GIF for this; you'll definitely lose quality with both.
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From:e_richard
Date:July 8th, 2005 01:50 am (UTC)
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There are plug-ins available for the viewing of .TIF files in most common browsers, such as QuickTime.
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From:bfm
Date:July 8th, 2005 05:48 am (UTC)
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tifs are for print - web browsers don't support them
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