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Here's a list of my first impressions, and requests as well as a small comparision to my current provider.. fotki.



I'd like to see the ability to add information about a picture, WHEN you upload the picture, in the same form.

explanation:
1 go to the upload page, "How many pictures would you like to upload?"
--Pick from a drop down of 1 - 10
2 the proper page comes up with the ammount of "browse" needed, and it has a field for title, and a text area for description as well as a combo box to add to gallery, the combo box lets you add to more than one gallery. as well as creating a new one.
--this all was super easy in PHP but I don't know how easy it will be with perl.
3 The final page.. tells you update successfull or not. and shows you thumbs of the pics uploaded and the info posted as well as a list of the galleries posted to

**I dont know how well perl works with CGI and variables from forms, but again, this woulda been piece of cake in php, so thats why i suggested it, i figured it shouldnt be too hard in perl

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CLIENT:

i miss the image preview on the fotki image upload activeX, perhaps this could be on the client? I dont think it should be too hard to add.

The client just did not work for me.. so i didn't test it.
--explanation: i tried uploading pics, it uploaded them, but they never showed in my galleries, also i couldnt get my list of galleries to load into the client.

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COLOR PICKER:
it would be nice to on the side of it maybe be able to pick from the 256 standardweb-palette colors.. so many colors are frankly confussing, if i want to have multiple themes and keep the colors the same its going to be hard to pick the same color again from the picker.. if not impossible, I would like the ability to pick from the standard 256 color palette, and maybe an extra 32 colors or something from a "saved custom colors" palette.

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CROPPING
--multiple crop states
----explanation: a picture can have multiple crop states. like a 4:3 a panoramic, a 1:1
--automatic cropping to a certain aspect ratio
----explanation: basically a resizeable, moveable box that allways kept its aspect ratio
--by default right now on the latest ie, the crop box by default has selection parts outside the picture bounds.
--What the hell does cropping do? it apparently had no effect on anything when i tested it.
--what is the focus point ?

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GALLERIES:
The url's are ugly.

I think styles should have some, pre-generated color scheme's to pick from

Password protected galleries that any user with the password can see, no need for registration

I liked on fotki how i could have a tree of albums displayed with every page

I would like to see the ability comment on pictures

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MANUAL:
would it be easier to build this in a wiki format? not really open to everyone, but to like only documentation volunteers and dev members etc? the wikipedia script is small, easy to install uses mysql and has the history revissions to protect from vandalism.

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FOTKI COMPARISONS
PRO:
--I REALLY like the stand-alone client.
--I REALLY like the ability to add galleries from the client (even if its broken)
--I REALLY like being able to see a bunch of pictures and edit all thei info at once through the text & security menu
--I LOVE being able to customize my galleries. like big time love.

CONS:
--no image preview on client [Minor]
--fotki url-s are read-friendly. which made them easier to give out to friends. etc
proposed alias picpix.com/user/galleryname/[child?.../]pic#/ [Minor]
--NO EXIF data reading
--No traffic statistics [Minor]
--no password protected albums [BIG ONE]
--no option to see tree on pages. [minor]
--no comments [BIG ONE]
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From:evan
Date:October 9th, 2002 05:18 pm (UTC)

thanks for the input

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Could you give details on the client? What exactly does an "image preview" entail?
What happened when you tried to load the galleries in the client?

Uploads that aren't to a specific gallery should go to your "Unsorted" gallery, which is normally not visible. Did you look there?
From:kaoslord
Date:October 9th, 2002 06:23 pm (UTC)

Re: thanks for the input

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OK, i am an idiot. i tried to login as kaoslord@livejournal.com, my bad. but it really wasn't _that_ clear that i shoulda used pics.livejournal.com. I mean it didnt give meany errors, it let me upload and everything.... they just didn't show up in my galleries. Oh and now i get a credentials error, but it's only sometimes.

as for the picture preview, its just an image control. when you highlight the filename of a picture it shows you a preview of it. but as i'm thinking, with the method you use to select images windoze users get to see the thmbs anyways if you have folders set to display thumbnails....

anyways, here's a screen shot:
http://pics.livejournal.com/kaoslord/pic/00009rxd/g6
From:kaoslord
Date:October 9th, 2002 07:31 pm (UTC)

Re: thanks for the input

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another suggestion:
why can't you make a new gallery with the parent being "root", once you click "update list"? it defaults the parent to one of the categories in the list and doesn't let me change.. it works fine before i load the categories though.
From:evan
Date:October 10th, 2002 12:31 am (UTC)

Re: thanks for the input

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Yeah. We couldn't think of a better way of managing that. Any suggestions?
From:kaoslord
Date:October 10th, 2002 06:33 am (UTC)

Re: thanks for the input

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Hmm, how about when you click "new" make the box that displays "parent" a list box, which by default, has the root, and all the children galleries listed. If you have a certain gallery highlighted in the tree view that should be the default on the drop down list box. OR, on the tree control when you are picking categories you should have the tree start at root, and if people try to select that to upload to that category it should simply give you a msg box telling you you picks will be sent to "unsorted".

while I am at it..
--I dont know if the protocol allows for this, but here goes....

iffy suggestion.. maybe the ability to set title and descriptions from the upload program? I see problems with this and uploading large ammounts of pictures though.. as well as UI clunk and unnecessady complications. I don't know if its worth it.

another thing I would REALLY like would be the ability to upload to multiple galleries at once. However this again seems like it would end up as UI clunk. the only way I see to do something like this efficiently is to be able to have multiple upload queues, and each queue can upload the containing pics into more than one gallery.. maybe using a combo box when selecting the categories each queue will go into? This would make batch uploading easy. say I come back from a weekend of massive photo taking, i have 150 pictures which I will place into 7 different galleries, this would simplyfy the upload process significantly.. I would be willing to test out UI's for any of these features for you.. even if they are non-functional (just the UI, no actual code).. maybe just so we can get a feel for how these things work? and if they are worth adding.. or if they will just end up as clunk and bloat.

whatever it is or any idea's you have let me know, maybe some things will pop into my mind and we can come up with some good stuff


Ohh and here's one long term, thing which I would LOVE... ability to throttle bandwidth.. you know just in case i want to upload 100mb of pics and i dont want that eating ALL of my upstream bandwidth for the next [verylongtime] but thats more a luxury than basic functionality
From:kaoslord
Date:October 9th, 2002 09:30 pm (UTC)

Re: thanks for the input

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one more idea.. how about something that tells how how many kb you are uploading total, and an esitmated upload time based upon how fast its transfering. you know.. like a download window form a browser.. but upload.. oh oh, and a check box to clear the files in the queue once they are _successfully_ uploaded.
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